Bonus Content Lyrical Lesson – How to Have Constructive Conversations Across Differences

I recently learned about the music artist Terrian, but the simple, clean sound of her style and the passionate, powerful delivery of her vocals have made her a quick favorite. The video for her song, Let Love Lead, complements Dr. Rivera’s message so well because it illustrates the entanglement the entire Church is in due to sin such as racism and sexism. Though all of the nuances, complexities, and holistic impact of shalom healing can not be captured in a video, the imagery clearly shows the effect of freedom as we choose to “reset” our churches to model the biblical standard of “vertical and horizontal” righteousness.

Terrian – Let Love Lead –



Bonus Content – How to Have Constructive Conversations Across Differences – Dr. Ruben Rivera

Welcome to the H.U.E Podcast!

The bonus content in this episode is from our podcast series: Will the Church Ever be Free of White Supremacy?

In this episode, Dr. Ruben Rivera shares core principles that are necessary for  effective conversations on controversial topics. Drawing upon examples from his twenty-plus years of experience in intergroup dialogue, Dr. Rivera illustrates how it is possible to challenge and disagree with others constructively through a posture of curiosity and humility.

Visit to listen to the complete series and listen to the Lyrical Lesson partnered with this episode.